When I looked it up on perplexity, it said that the POLL feature only allowed anonymous responses, and that if you actually wanted to see, as the author, who said what you needed to use the SURVEY tool. But I think that’s more complicated and for more detailed things, but I’m not sure as I’ve never looked at it.
Digital decay versus the extinction of homo sapiens. hmmmm
Could both of these scenarios happen simultaneously? We’re already seeing the digital space crumble under misinformation and tech dependence, while humanity, with all its ummmm BS, may very well evolve into something unrecognizable over the next few weeks LOL. Let’s just hope we don’t go extinct before we can appreciate the beauty of progress or at least a few good jokes along the way.
No, I cannot. I have to use the survey feature, not the poll feature. I guess I’ll have to put that onto my very long to do list to learn how to do that. I’m absolutely swamped right now-nothing about Substack-but getting our community radio station on the air.
It's a great way to acknowledge the participants and get them interested in reading your post because they would probably be curious to know the answer.
As much as I dislike doing laundry I can't really imagine a robot being able to fold my clothes or if that's really gonna save me that much time even if they could.
I found the conversation quite bizarre. This woman was just so enthusiastic about this. She opened it up by saying oh 20 years is such a long perspective. And then clothes folding robots.
Ah, no wonder my ears were burning when I woke up today. 😃
I'm thoroughly underwhelmed by robots running races. Cars go faster than even a horse, planes can fly, and bulldozers move a lot more earth than a human can. The whole point of machines is that they can do things we can't. But what possible value is there in watching sports played by machines? The whole point of a sport is human excellence. Baseball, for example, involves the very edge of human performance in pitching and batting (and catching and running bases). Robot sports sound as interesting as watching a washing machine.
The failure of the robot "racers" reminds me of the self-driving car races they used to have in the SoCal desert. At least for the first few years, none ever finished, and many were in trouble early on. At least eventually.
I doubt P45&47 can even play checkers, let alone chess. And not only would the single-space King annoy him, so would the power of the Queen. I suspect people are just brown-nosing when they claim he's doing something adult and sophisticated.
[Just to be pedantic, computer chess is entirely 2D. And in cases like this, I do not consider time a dimension. Only orthogonal Euclidean directions need apply. One could, I think, design a 4D chess game. There is a 4D Rubik's Cube. Visualization is a bit of a trick.]
I don't know that we'd ever completely extinguish ourselves given how spread out we. It's not impossible, though, but I suspect it's more likely we'd make things so bad that billions perish and the human race is reduced to much simpler times. The real problem is that "sapiens" means "one who knows" or "wisdom", and we've never really lived up to that name.
I appreciate your comments. I thought afterwards i should have done more about Trump playing chess and less on the semantics. The queen comment is so true
Your sapiens line of thought mimics mine. I believe we are the emoting ape rather than the thinking ape
In a time where the amount of reading of literature is diminishing and high school reading skills are demonstrably falling quickly. Soon we won’t even know these things because we can’t read about them
Indeed. It’s generally well-known that travel broadens the mind, and I think those who read a lot understand this also applies to reading. One of my all-time favorite quotes is due to Ralph Waldo Emerson:
“I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me.”
Exactly so. Which raises the difficult question of what makes people now?
back in the last century someone predicted computer intelligence would exceed human intelligence by 2015, based on a simple graft with a linear human line and an exponential line for computers. I dont think we made that time line. but a good possibility that the date was 2025 with the roll out of general AI. lets hope its not Colossus , the Forbin project
Thanks for the comment Gordon. There is so much argument about AGI - Artificial General Intelligence - and what that means. For instance, the median mathematical skills in a human is rudimentary fractions. But my experience working with AI is that they are strong at some things and really bad at others. True human capabilities - out of box thinking, creativity, judgement - are beyond them. My summary is that they are like a very bookish person with immense recall but who doesn’t have the ability to figure which stuff is more important than others, nor to really think. I think we are a long way from Colossus. I think the real destruction of mankind will be through the various AI bots that will emerge in 30 years for sex or friendship or therapy.
When I looked it up on perplexity, it said that the POLL feature only allowed anonymous responses, and that if you actually wanted to see, as the author, who said what you needed to use the SURVEY tool. But I think that’s more complicated and for more detailed things, but I’m not sure as I’ve never looked at it.
Digital decay versus the extinction of homo sapiens. hmmmm
Could both of these scenarios happen simultaneously? We’re already seeing the digital space crumble under misinformation and tech dependence, while humanity, with all its ummmm BS, may very well evolve into something unrecognizable over the next few weeks LOL. Let’s just hope we don’t go extinct before we can appreciate the beauty of progress or at least a few good jokes along the way.
Thank you for the mention here.
Happy Freaking Friday David.
Thanks as always for the read and comments.
David, have you considered tagging and listing the winners or even tagging the people who participated… 🤔
No, I cannot. I have to use the survey feature, not the poll feature. I guess I’ll have to put that onto my very long to do list to learn how to do that. I’m absolutely swamped right now-nothing about Substack-but getting our community radio station on the air.
So I take it the poll doesn't tell you who voted just the percentage? I haven't used it yet. I'll be trying it out this Wednesday.
Great idea let me see if I can do that
It's a great way to acknowledge the participants and get them interested in reading your post because they would probably be curious to know the answer.
See above. Can’t do it with the POLL feature
As much as I dislike doing laundry I can't really imagine a robot being able to fold my clothes or if that's really gonna save me that much time even if they could.
I found the conversation quite bizarre. This woman was just so enthusiastic about this. She opened it up by saying oh 20 years is such a long perspective. And then clothes folding robots.
Ah, no wonder my ears were burning when I woke up today. 😃
I'm thoroughly underwhelmed by robots running races. Cars go faster than even a horse, planes can fly, and bulldozers move a lot more earth than a human can. The whole point of machines is that they can do things we can't. But what possible value is there in watching sports played by machines? The whole point of a sport is human excellence. Baseball, for example, involves the very edge of human performance in pitching and batting (and catching and running bases). Robot sports sound as interesting as watching a washing machine.
The failure of the robot "racers" reminds me of the self-driving car races they used to have in the SoCal desert. At least for the first few years, none ever finished, and many were in trouble early on. At least eventually.
I doubt P45&47 can even play checkers, let alone chess. And not only would the single-space King annoy him, so would the power of the Queen. I suspect people are just brown-nosing when they claim he's doing something adult and sophisticated.
[Just to be pedantic, computer chess is entirely 2D. And in cases like this, I do not consider time a dimension. Only orthogonal Euclidean directions need apply. One could, I think, design a 4D chess game. There is a 4D Rubik's Cube. Visualization is a bit of a trick.]
I don't know that we'd ever completely extinguish ourselves given how spread out we. It's not impossible, though, but I suspect it's more likely we'd make things so bad that billions perish and the human race is reduced to much simpler times. The real problem is that "sapiens" means "one who knows" or "wisdom", and we've never really lived up to that name.
I appreciate your comments. I thought afterwards i should have done more about Trump playing chess and less on the semantics. The queen comment is so true
Your sapiens line of thought mimics mine. I believe we are the emoting ape rather than the thinking ape
Thanks again for reading
The tragedy is experiencing through literature what we can rise to while having to live in the depths of what we can sink to.
In a time where the amount of reading of literature is diminishing and high school reading skills are demonstrably falling quickly. Soon we won’t even know these things because we can’t read about them
Indeed. It’s generally well-known that travel broadens the mind, and I think those who read a lot understand this also applies to reading. One of my all-time favorite quotes is due to Ralph Waldo Emerson:
“I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me.”
Exactly so. Which raises the difficult question of what makes people now?
back in the last century someone predicted computer intelligence would exceed human intelligence by 2015, based on a simple graft with a linear human line and an exponential line for computers. I dont think we made that time line. but a good possibility that the date was 2025 with the roll out of general AI. lets hope its not Colossus , the Forbin project
Thanks for the comment Gordon. There is so much argument about AGI - Artificial General Intelligence - and what that means. For instance, the median mathematical skills in a human is rudimentary fractions. But my experience working with AI is that they are strong at some things and really bad at others. True human capabilities - out of box thinking, creativity, judgement - are beyond them. My summary is that they are like a very bookish person with immense recall but who doesn’t have the ability to figure which stuff is more important than others, nor to really think. I think we are a long way from Colossus. I think the real destruction of mankind will be through the various AI bots that will emerge in 30 years for sex or friendship or therapy.