finally I got the product right!😂 I keep saying this but you cannot trust all of the output from ChatGPT. And if you're bringing caselot into a courtroom here for darn sure better be double checking that.
On any AI the rule of thumb I read from a researcher which I now use is that it is 25% wrong. But, you never know where it is so output has to be checked carefully
I can't remember what I picked for this week. I read a lot of my stuff on my phone and the way they have the poll set up, you can't even read all the words. I think I picked something ridiculous like the holographic one! 😂
Well that could be right. Or not. I just looked at my phone and the words were all in. But I think you are right that if they are a little larger they won’t show. But I like the poll feature.
The collective apathy towards surveillance reminds me of frogs in hot water except the frogs are uploading daily vlogs and tagging their geolocation. We've normalized it so much that if Alexa told me where I left my passport and what I last ate, I’d probably just say, “Thanks.'
PS Alexa has been gone for a long time now. Just saying :)
Hmmmm - imagine showing up to a trial with ChatGPT generated case law and hoping for the best. "Your Honor, I object on the grounds of... predictive text!"
The tech works best when we do too, and skipping the due diligence step is asking for a digital slap on the wrist.
As a conversation point, other than our sense of it being different, why is living in glass houses a Bad Thing if one leads a legal and moral life? I'm old-fashioned and like my privacy because that's how it's always been, but if a culture is brought up without that expectation — indeed has the expectation of sharing everything — what makes that a Bad Thing?
There is a saying: "Sunlight is the best disinfectant." Making wrong-doing public has always been an effective strategy (at least until recently). Other than the notion being offensive to those of us not raised that way, why not be more open?
I think we are way past it just being about legal but what is “legal” is a slippery slope, especially in the US. That is a concern. It isn’t always about wrongdoing.
Moral is completely relative, emotional and subjective. It private hands you never know what could happen. A few of your neighbours dislike you smoking marijuana where it is legal They track your car and call the cops when you are shopping saying you stole something. Some anti-vaxxers decide your provaccine stance about the measles is bad and the doxx your work, home and child’s school. Etcetera. Etcetera. Etcetera. The possibilities of misuse of this tech is enormous. Self righteous moralization driving action is one of my biggest concerns
The thing is that those folks would be under scrutiny, too. In a panopticon society, doxxing becomes irrelevant. False accusations become impossible. That said, protections for the innocent would have to be part of the equation.
I am playing devil's advocate here. I like my privacy as much as any old fart, but I can envision a society built on complete openness.
(On a completely different topic, I'm not sure I agree morality is *completely* relative. I think there may be some absolutes there, but it's difficult to say exactly what or why.)
Except they wouldn’t be. As for all other technologies its access will be unequal and limited, with more and better access based on money and specialized interests. Nuisance incidents will rise and interest groups who aren’t wanting to be watched will have a number of means of prevention ( mud on plates, no plates, false plates). So doxxing will still be a major issue. Again, as always, the ways to misuse this technology as its scope and scale is only limited by imagination
No doubt, you're 100% right about the practicalities. I have a head-in-the-clouds tendency to look at things on a theoretical or idealistic level. (Which I hope is at least better than *yelling* at clouds.)
I think it's worth noting that your objections have mainly to do with people acting in bad faith, and one presumption of a completely open society is that such people would find it harder and harder (and less popular) to act that way. It also requires a great deal of open-mindedness about the behavior of others along with a civil structure that penalizes misuse. All of which is pretty much out of the question with people as we know them.
FWIW, this idea is based on a number of SF novels I've read that feature aliens who, because they're telepathic, can't have secrets from each other, and their society has evolved on that premise. In one case, the species was dog-like in having fur and tails that always reflected their true feelings. In my book, one of the greatest sins is deceit, so I can't help but be drawn to systems that make it difficult or impossible.
I like you ideas and thoughts but I am definitely a feet on the ground realist with a cynical streak I also think that there is a lot of bad faith going around
finally I got the product right!😂 I keep saying this but you cannot trust all of the output from ChatGPT. And if you're bringing caselot into a courtroom here for darn sure better be double checking that.
Yay! Thus week’s is trickier.
On any AI the rule of thumb I read from a researcher which I now use is that it is 25% wrong. But, you never know where it is so output has to be checked carefully
I can't remember what I picked for this week. I read a lot of my stuff on my phone and the way they have the poll set up, you can't even read all the words. I think I picked something ridiculous like the holographic one! 😂
Well that could be right. Or not. I just looked at my phone and the words were all in. But I think you are right that if they are a little larger they won’t show. But I like the poll feature.
My phone is incredibly small and it cut some of them off. I could guess all of them except there was one that I had no idea what it was.
The collective apathy towards surveillance reminds me of frogs in hot water except the frogs are uploading daily vlogs and tagging their geolocation. We've normalized it so much that if Alexa told me where I left my passport and what I last ate, I’d probably just say, “Thanks.'
PS Alexa has been gone for a long time now. Just saying :)
Hmmmm - imagine showing up to a trial with ChatGPT generated case law and hoping for the best. "Your Honor, I object on the grounds of... predictive text!"
The tech works best when we do too, and skipping the due diligence step is asking for a digital slap on the wrist.
As always, David, this was good.
As a conversation point, other than our sense of it being different, why is living in glass houses a Bad Thing if one leads a legal and moral life? I'm old-fashioned and like my privacy because that's how it's always been, but if a culture is brought up without that expectation — indeed has the expectation of sharing everything — what makes that a Bad Thing?
There is a saying: "Sunlight is the best disinfectant." Making wrong-doing public has always been an effective strategy (at least until recently). Other than the notion being offensive to those of us not raised that way, why not be more open?
I think we are way past it just being about legal but what is “legal” is a slippery slope, especially in the US. That is a concern. It isn’t always about wrongdoing.
Moral is completely relative, emotional and subjective. It private hands you never know what could happen. A few of your neighbours dislike you smoking marijuana where it is legal They track your car and call the cops when you are shopping saying you stole something. Some anti-vaxxers decide your provaccine stance about the measles is bad and the doxx your work, home and child’s school. Etcetera. Etcetera. Etcetera. The possibilities of misuse of this tech is enormous. Self righteous moralization driving action is one of my biggest concerns
The thing is that those folks would be under scrutiny, too. In a panopticon society, doxxing becomes irrelevant. False accusations become impossible. That said, protections for the innocent would have to be part of the equation.
I am playing devil's advocate here. I like my privacy as much as any old fart, but I can envision a society built on complete openness.
(On a completely different topic, I'm not sure I agree morality is *completely* relative. I think there may be some absolutes there, but it's difficult to say exactly what or why.)
Except they wouldn’t be. As for all other technologies its access will be unequal and limited, with more and better access based on money and specialized interests. Nuisance incidents will rise and interest groups who aren’t wanting to be watched will have a number of means of prevention ( mud on plates, no plates, false plates). So doxxing will still be a major issue. Again, as always, the ways to misuse this technology as its scope and scale is only limited by imagination
No doubt, you're 100% right about the practicalities. I have a head-in-the-clouds tendency to look at things on a theoretical or idealistic level. (Which I hope is at least better than *yelling* at clouds.)
I think it's worth noting that your objections have mainly to do with people acting in bad faith, and one presumption of a completely open society is that such people would find it harder and harder (and less popular) to act that way. It also requires a great deal of open-mindedness about the behavior of others along with a civil structure that penalizes misuse. All of which is pretty much out of the question with people as we know them.
FWIW, this idea is based on a number of SF novels I've read that feature aliens who, because they're telepathic, can't have secrets from each other, and their society has evolved on that premise. In one case, the species was dog-like in having fur and tails that always reflected their true feelings. In my book, one of the greatest sins is deceit, so I can't help but be drawn to systems that make it difficult or impossible.
I like you ideas and thoughts but I am definitely a feet on the ground realist with a cynical streak I also think that there is a lot of bad faith going around
This is concerning, indeed.
Loved the Timothy Snyder quote.
Enjoy your evening!
Hans, thanks for your prompt read and comment. We live in challenging times.